Primordial Poop

Primordial Poop

Primordial Poop

Reprint from March, 2012 Sorry, moms, but this is something I remember pondering as an eight year old. If I thought of it, I’ll bet your kids will wonder about it, too!

Creation Science

Sorry, Moms!!!

Primordial: [pry-more-deal] having to do with the first, like it was in the beginning.

Poop: well, I think you already know that one…

In my e-mail box today was the Creation Research Newsletter.  It always has something fascinating to learn and answers to questions I would have answers by myself. One of the articles asked about body waste [poop] before the fall ruined everything.  I figured you would like to hear about this since I did, so here goes.

Nowadays the stuff that comes out of us is disgusting and messy. It isn’t possible to picture that this would have been true before sin came in (or after those in Jesus’ kingdom get forever bodies- I Corinthians 15:53).  So what was God’s purpose in our intestinal system?

First, if we were to go on an only raw fruits an veggies diet, things wouldn’t be too bad even today.  Also, there wouldn’t have been any bad change in the bacteria that lives inside of us yet, so there wouldn’t have been any yucky smells (or cavities, as MacKay points out).

A dominant male proboscis monkey at the Singap...

Dominant male proboscis monkey at the Singapore Zoo,

Second, the whole process of digestion is actually very good for the plants whose fruit we eat. You’ve probably studied about this in how plants spread their seeds. Our bodies don’t break down the seeds, so they aren’t hurt by a trip through our gut.  Then, they are deposited in a super-quickly prepared high-potency compost.

Ewww, still not pretty, but the God who designed the Proboscis Monkey doesn’t have the same view of pretty as we do all the time!

And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.  And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.  And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. Genesis 1:29-31

Can YOU Spot Them?

Can You Spot the Common Ancestors? Part 1

A phylogenetic tree showing the three-domain s...

“Evolutionary tree showing the divergence of modern species from their common ancestor in the center. The three domains are colored, with bacteria blue, archaea green, and eukaryotes red.” (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

Do you know the basic definition of biological evolution (The idea that life developed from non-living things)? This is actually something people who believe in Evolution don’t like to talk about and we’re going to find out why.

Here’s part of Websters’ Online Dictionary’s definition of the Evolution of living things:

(3) The development of each species from different, usually simpler ancestral forms. The more similar are two species, the closer in time are they likely to be to a common ancestor. (Arbib) . . .

For example, these DNA sequence comparisons have revealed the close genetic similarity between humans and chimpanzees and shed light on when the common ancestor of these species existed. (I made the important bits bold)

Whether the evolutionists like it or not, they have to believe everything alive today developed from organisms who had some children that turned into one thing while other children turned into a completely different kind. Let’s see if we can find some examples of such a many-talented animal.

For example: some Evolutionary scientists want to make Sharovipteryx the great grandpa of the pterasaurs, but others recognize how crazy that idea is. The more you look at Evolutionary stories for grownups, the more you find out how crazy all their ideas are.

Let’s see what the Tree of Life Web Project thinks about common ancestors. You can pick any creature you like (there’s a search box on the left, it’ll give you the Latin name to click on).

Here’s an example of what you’ll find:


Birds (Photo credit: Kenny Teo (zoompict))

I started with “gulls” which led me to the Larus group.  Under the great pictures (it’s fun to hunt around on that site because of the photos), you’ll find a long list of different seagulls with gray lines connecting groups (any species names on those lines?). On the far left you find an arrow that turns into a link when you scroll over it. It should lead us to their “common ancestor”, right?

No, it just links to the larger class of birds which include the gulls, called Laridae. It has more gray lines bunching birds into groups with another arrow on the left. Click on that and… surely they’ll have an ancestor now!…. you come to and even wider grouping of birds.

BTW, do we have any problem with grouping animals as Creationists? Hardly! The guy who invented the modern classification system was a Creationist.

English: Extinct Birds is a book by Walter Rot...Next stop brings us to a grouping called Neoaves (which means “new flyers”) and those are part of the Neornithes (“new birds”) class. The following arrow leads us to Aves which has a bunch of names with a cross next to them (parents, don’t you love it; even on the evolutionary page, they still can’t escape Jesus!). I’ve written about archaeopteryx, plus there are 5 other birds which used to live and aren’t around any more. 🙁

OK, now we’re getting to the ancestors of birds, or are we? The “Aves” page doesn’t even have any arrows! But, there is a link to a “containing group” Coelurosauria.

For some reason they don’t even pretend to know how each group here is “related” to the others. But you will see they’re pushing the idea of dinosaurs evolving into birds with their page, though. You can see they really mean this when the next “containing group” is called Theropoda or “Bipedal predatory dinosaurs”.

Would a Creationist have put birds into this group, or skipped right to the “four-limbed” category?

Let’s stop here for now, but we aren’t even close to the end! I’ll post Part 2 next time.

And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Romans 1:23 

For an idea of what it would take to turn a dino into a bird, check out the Institute for Creation Research article: What Would Need to Change for a Dinosaur to Evolve into a Bird

Hoatzins, Guyana’s National Bird aka the Stink Bird

Hoatzin, Beni River, Bolivia.

Hoatzin, Beni River, Bolivia.

I first heard of the Hoatzin [pronounced hoh-at-sin] Bird when I was studying for my post on Archaeopteryx a couple of months ago.  It’s kind of strange to have a bird so well known in one country that they chose it for their national bird, and yet it’s so unknown in other places!

Hoatzins live in the northern part of South America wherever there is quiet, swampy water and lots of trees around for them to build their nests in and eat from.  They grow to about 65 cm (25.6″) long and weigh less than 1kg (2.2lb).  Which makes them just longer than Archaeopteryx.

Only pictures can describe what this bird looks like for you.  Their bright colors and crests make them attractive from a distance.  The moms look almost like dads, just a bit smaller with shorter head crests. But if you go visit them, their calls could be described as “a heavy smoker’s wheezing,” and you might want to bring a nose plug with you!

Hoatzin (also known as the Hoactzin and Stinkb...

Hoatzins are vegetarians, feeding on lots of leaves, with some fruit and flowers for dessert.  They have a specialized crop (the first section of the food canal) that has two folds to digest all the fiber in the leaves, much like what cows and sheep do with their first stomachs.  This is slow but efficient and lets the Hoatzin eat a lot of plants that other birds can’t.  They also don’t have to fly around all day trying to get enough food.  Of course, like the Sloth, the Hoatzin doesn’t have enough energy to stay busy all day, either.  They gather and eat food for about half an hour, morning and evening.  They spend the rest of the day sitting on a branch looking around and leaning forward on a special spot God gave them on their breastbone.

The Hoatzin can release disgusting smells (ever been to a cow farm?) from their crop when they sense danger. This smelly habit is a blessing to the Hoatzin because only very hungry creatures are interested in such a meal.  Because of this, the Hoatzin isn’t in great danger of going extinct, although people need to be careful to leave enough of their favorite waterside trees for them to nest in.


Adult Hoatzins aren’t very strong fliers.  Their bodies are heavy with all that food, and their flight muscles are weak.  When parent Hoatzins see a dangerous hawk or other predator coming, they will crash-land in nearby bushes, trying to distract attention from their chicks.  God has also provided baby Hoatzins with some very special tools to help them survive.  Hoatzin nests are almost always built over water, so if they’re spotted, the chicks will jump down and swim to the shore.  When it’s safe, they use claws on their wings to help them ackwardly clamber back up to the nest.

Hoatzin chicks grow so quickly that they can only climb for their first two weeks before they get too heavy.  But, a baby Hoatzin has to take care of itself at three weeks anyway.

Evolutionists Quotes of the Day:

from Last Refuge:  “Unable to decide whether it is truly primitive or just an evolutionary throwback, scientists have shelved the problem and placed the hoatzin, Opisthocomus hoazin, in a family or even an order all by itself.”  Of course it’s “primitive,” so are we!  Figures they would just make a new order rather than face the possibility that the Creator would throw in some puzzles to prove that there is a Designer.

And from Wikipedia:  “It is arguably the most enigmatic living bird in regard to its phylogenetic relationships. No satisfying evolutionary hypothesis has been proposed, and the situation has become worse with the availability of DNA sequence data.”

In English this means, “Hoatzins are a puzzle to those who what to say that all animals developed from other animals.  The more we learn, the less Hoatzins fit into our neat tree of life.”  Evolutionists have spent a lot of time trying to force the Hoatzin to belong to one of the other groups of birds, but nothing works.

Praise the LORD from the earth, ye…. Beasts, and all cattle; creeping things, and flying fowl:

kings of the earth, and all people; princes, and all judges of the earth: both young men, and maidens; old men, and children:

let them praise the name of the LORD: for his name alone is excellent; his glory is above the earth and heaven. Psalm 148:7,10-13

Don’t miss Lee’s Birds take on Hoatzin – The Stinker

Answers in Genesis has an in depth article on them.

Sites I used to build this post:

Last Refuge: RELIC OF PREHISTORY? has a first hand story of a guy trying to get pictures of baby hoatzin’s climbing.  Lots of info on nesting and chicks.

Land of Six Peoples: Hoatzin talks about their digestion (and opens with a saying for Sherlock Holmes’ fans)

Encyclopaedia Britannica: Hoatzin Bird

Don Roberson’s page on Hoatzins