Beringia strait, Roblespepe, WikiCommons

Submerged Ice Age Ruins are Everywhere!

Beringia strait, Roblespepe, WikiCommons

Land Bridge from Asia to North America during the Ice Age

 

If you remember from the Ice Age posts, we figure it took about 500 years for the ice sheets to be the biggest they got before melting. When all that water was trapped on top of the continents, it wasn’t filling up the ocean.

All scientists figure that the water levels were up to 394 feet (120 meters) lower at the peak of the Ice Age before slowly rising to the level we see today. As we know, people were busy spreading all over the planet during this time, so it makes sense that they would leave behind submerged ruins for us to find in the shallow seas around the world.

First have a look at this page on how there was once a land bridge between England and France.

Then have a look at some of the places we’ve found around the world:

Persian Gulf Oasis

Underwater Burial Cave in Mexico

Unesco Underwater Cultural Heritage. These aren’t all Ice Age remains, but a lot of them are!!

Human Construction under the Black Sea. Noah’s Flood Deniers love to say that the Flood story came from the catastrophic breach of the Mediterranean into the Black Sea basin. This didn’t happen until after the World Wide Flood of Noah’s day, but it probably did happen like they describe.

Red Sea Settlements

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Possible Beringia Land Bridge. Animated gif of its progress from Ice Age to modern times.

Bimini Road of the coast of Cuba. If you read this page you’ll notice a common technique for keeping information about uncomfortable things from the mainstream of science: just don’t publish it!!! Then you can claim that no one really knows, it’s all just a conspiracy, etc.

And another article about the Cuban coast showing that there was a whole city. Have a look at this quote about why they won’t admit just what it all is: “We’d prefer to stay away from that subject. This is something of great potential scientific interest, but it must involve serious authorities on ancient civilizations.” They’d rather protect their jobs than publish the truth.

Washington State Ice Age Settlements

Florida Coast

Indian Coast

Underwater Pyramid Japan

Britain

Off the Coast of Israel

In the English Channel

Pavlopetri, Greece with more pictures and this page with more info

Well, that should keep you busy, and certainly shows that people got around!!

Here’s an article from a Young Earth Creationist about these places and more: Ice Age end about 1500BC and a MAP

So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city. Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth. Genesis 11:8,9

Islamic Ark Illumination

The Whole World Remembers Noah’s Flood

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This topic seemed good to cover since Master Books has put out a book on the same subject. Haven’t had a chance to look at it yet, but you can get an idea of the kinds of things it covers from my article I’m reposting:

A couple of years ago I ran into the book Eternity in Their Hearts by Don Richardson that discusses the memory many people groups have of the great Flood.  I had heard of the Babylonian myth of a cube-shaped boat and the gods landing on the sacrifice afterwards because they were so hungry.  That story in the Gilgamesh Epoch is often used to “show” that the Bible just borrowed and sanitized other cultures’ myths.  But like all the arguments non-believers use, this can cut both ways.

If the great Flood of Noah’s day actually happened, wouldn’t you expect his descendents to hold on to some memory of it?  If it was just a myth, why would people groups from all over the world reinvent the same false story?

This is one of the commonly known evidences of the truth of God’s Word that non-believers don’t want children to find out about.  They will talk about it among themselves, but Cosmos-forbid the little ones get the wrong idea! “Flood myths are told by probably the majority of human nations.” by Albert L. Kroeber in Anthropology from 1948.

Turns out the Babylonian story is just the “cube” on the tip of the iceberg.  I found an enormous page covering these stories.  I was going to tell you the total number of people groups Mark Isaak mentions, but when I saw how many more there were after counting to 100 I stopped!  Every part of the globe that people live in (so no stories from Antarctica!) has groups that remember some part of the Flood.  Mind-blowing and Awesome.

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Illustration of the Black Sea deluge, before and after

An explanation worldwide Flood doubters have for why people “invented” flood stories is the filling of the Black Sea.  I once accidentally bought a book that claimed this.  I didn’t keep it, so I don’t recall the title, but I did read it (here’s a page with a pop-up ad that makes the same case).  The author explained that as sea levels rose long ago (which they certainly did, at the end of the Ice Age) suddenly flooding the fertile valley that is now the Black Sea.  I’m sure this happened.  But does that explain why they tell flood stories in the Pacific Islands and the Americas?  It takes just as much faith to believe that all humans were living in the Black Sea basin 7,500 years ago and carried the story around the world as it does for me to believe God’s Word.

Let’s compare what we have recorded in the Bible with all the other stories.  This page from Northwest Creation Network does a good job of this.  On their chart you’ll see that the only thing that every story has in common is destruction by water.  They’re chart shows that only the Babylon- Gilgamesh epic has all the story parts that the Bible mentions.  However, when I looked up that story on Isaak’s page, it didn’t say anything about people being wicked (and therefore judged), just that there were too many of them!

Noah's ark

This is not the real ark!

Now, let’s look at the details the Bible gives compared to the other stories to see which fits reality better.  Any story (like the Gilgamesh epic) that has many gods landing on meat like flies doesn’t fit.  Neither does a boat shaped like a box.  The Chaldeans said the dimensions of width to height was 5 to 2, the Bible’s ratio is 5 to 3.  Not too bad.  The Lithuanians (along with a number of other groups) knew that the Flood came because of wickedness, but they said that people survived by riding in a nutshell.

I wanted to see what the Chinese story had.  It says that the flood lasted 22 years and didn’t quite cover the mountain tops.  Maybe that’s why they’re fond of living up so high.  The hero gets killed by the gods and after 3 years a dragon comes out of his cut open body. Yuck!

There’s lots more you could say about the believability of the Bible’s account compared to all these others, but the main point is: They still remember!!!

If you like this topic be sure to listen to this episode of Creation Today’s interview with Jeremy Wiles who’s been to a bunch of these places and heard their stories straight from the people!

I’m not going to link to it, but I saw a page where someone stopped believing the Bible because he claims there is no evidence of a massive flood just a few thousand years ago.  I have a verse for him:

Jesus quoted, That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them. Mark 4:12

Here’s an article from Answers in Genesis on the seaworthiness of Noah’s ark.

God said, For this is as the waters of Noah unto me: for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee, nor rebuke thee.  For the mountains shall depart, and the hills be removed; but my kindness shall not depart from thee, neither shall the covenant of my peace be removed, saith the LORD that hath mercy on thee. Isaiah 54:9,10

The edition I have of Eternity in the Hearts from 1984 only cost 75c from half.com or there’s an updated one from Christian Book Distributors for $10 (both plus shipping)

Super Mutant Drawing

Mutants R Us???

I recently received a comment highlighing the importance of this topic, so I thought it was time to share this with you again. You can also check out a clue from the Bible HERE:

One of my earliest articles on this blog was on the question of whether dark-skinned people moved south to be comfortable and the other way around, or if we changed to match our environment.

I’ve been looking for the answer ever since and am rather surprised by how little we know about this, at least for people.  In fact, this draft has been sitting in my stack for some time while I’ve tried to puzzle out just what we know about the variety of features we see in people around the world.

When I first started looking at what we know about adaptations (the ability an animal or plant has to change), I was getting very confused. Turns out bacteria can adapt quite a bit, very quickly to the environment they are put into. But after just a little time that ability to keep changing slows way down.

In fact, bacteria being able to survive environments specially designed to try to destroy them is one of the Evolutionist’s favorite ways to show that Evolution must be true.  What they don’t tell you is that there has never been a case where new pieces of DNA (the tiny books inside every cell) got written from nowhere.

But this doesn’t tell us much about ourselves, because we sure don’t see people adapting to a new climate the way bacteria do.  In fact, there are a number of populations that have been transplanted (willingly or not) from the kind of environment you expect to see such people in, to very different ones.  It’s been over 200 years since dark-skinned Africans have been living in North America, and some of them have been living in England and Canada for well over a hundred years.  There have also been pale people originally from Europe living in Australia and across Africa for several hundred years.  In each of these places, unless they marry local people who have different skin color and such, their great, great grand children still look the same as their overseas cousins when they’re born (of course, you’re more likely to later get a tan if you live in a sunny, warm country, but that’s not changing your genetics).

What’s going on then?  How did we get from Noah and his wife, their three sons and their wives to all the variations we see today?

Evolutionists have one answer for this.  The only reason anything is different from an amoeba is Mutations.  They have no other answer, don’t want there to be any other answer, so they don’t look for anything else.

But what about Creation Scientists?  I’ve been studying and asking around the Creationist community for a couple of months now and was starting to get frustrated.

Disclaimer:  The following rant is all me.

First, I refuse to accept the idea that the reason some people (like me) have freckles is because we’re mutants!!  I don’t see how God didn’t pre-plan for some of us to have really curly or super-straight hair, almond-shaped eyes, very light or dark skin, or extra narrow or wide noses.  These things are not caused by mutations, but by variation in our DNA books.

Think about what we know of God’s nature.  He doesn’t make the same snowflake twice! No one claims they are different from each other because they’re all mutants.  Study the planets and stars.  Not one of them is the same as another, but, like the snow flakes, they don’t have any DNA to mutate.  Yet God made them all different.

God is a God of variety and uniqueness.  Sometime, when I find the right pictures, I’m going to post about how a potter uses the same clay to make many types of objects.  Usually, you can tell they were done by the same artist, but they are never exactly the same.  Why should we be any different?  If you study out the chances of there being a person exactly like you in existence, the numbers of zeros behind the odds are mind-blowing!  These statistics aren’t based on mutations but on the complexity of human DNA.

I was very pleased when my newest edition of Acts & Facts from the Institute for Creation Research came this week. In the middle there was a short article on Genetic Diversity by Dr. Jeffrey Tomkins.  He was very honest about what we know and don’t understand yet.  Like me, Dr. Tomkins sees God using existing DNA to allow for and cause much of the variety we see in living things.  He said, “Clearly, genetic variability is part of God’s design for plants and animals, but it is employed as an engineered system with limitations. These systems of genetic variability are just beginning to be understood.”

The last thing he mentions is, “Biology researchers at ICR are currently reviewing creationist and secular literature on non-coding DNA to determine new venues of research into the field of genetic diversity and the role it plays in adaptation.”  This tells us scientists still have a lot of studying to do to understand what’s going on in genetics.  Unfortunately, since all the work done by Evolutionists is going to assume all change is caused by mutations, Creation Scientists will have to do a lot of screening to find the truth.

Now, there are certainly things we carry in our bodies that are mutations.  Anything that causes us to get sick, develop a disease or be at risk for early death is caused by the curse on Adam and his race.  There are also some variations, such as the ability to still digest milk as an adult that seem to be caused by mutations.  There are even some people who are born with pale skin and hair to dark skinned parents with no known pale ancestry.  This is probably in the same category as an albino.  But that doesn’t prove all pale people are just albinos!

God is a great and powerful Creator.  We are still just beginning to understand just how wise and deep His design truly is after several hundred years of really trying!

For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother’s womb.  I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.  My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth. Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.  How precious also are thy thoughts unto me, O God! how great is the sum of them!  If I should count them, they are more in number than the sand: when I awake, I am still with thee. Psalm 139:13-18

Animal Family Reunion: Hybrids

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We’ve looked at how Biblical Creationists are said to believe in something called “Fixism” or, the idea that God created all creatures just as we see them today. Scientific observation will show anyone that idea can’t be true.

We also know Evolutionists believe every organism is part of one big family going back to a single ancestor (or very small group of single-celled ancestors). This also goes against everything we observe in science. Instead we see each creature having children close, but not identical, to their parents. Most of the time we have no problem saying they are part of the same species.

But sometimes things get really shaken up.

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We live in exciting times for Creation Science. With the help of DNA studies and all the scientific advances in the world, it is way easier to discover real family relationships. Even 50 years ago, most of what scientists had to go on was how a creature looked and acted. Today all kinds of organisms are being reclassified because we’ve found their genetics to be different from what we’d figured they had to be. (For an example, check out the confusion over the Giant Panda’s closest genetic neighbors).

BTW, what does this tell us about fossil creatures where we can’t possibly compare their genetics? How can anyone say it’s a fact that some things are related? They have no option but to assume the way the bones and other things look prove their case.

There is also a push right now to get a good idea of the kinds of animals God would have brought to Noah on the ark. This is an important thing to know. Did Noah need to take pairs from each of the 100,000+ species with him? If we thought he did, we would end up throwing out the whole story because there is no way they could all fit!

So, Answers in Genesis (who are saving up to build a full-sized replica of the Ark) and others are really studying these things. Here are some of the things they’ve found:

Swoose” Honking (Photo credit: OakleyOriginals)

 

  • Camels can have babies with Llamas (called a Cama, and are they cute!)
  • A Toothed Whale can have babies with a Dolphin (called a Wholphin)
  • A Swan and a Goose can have a baby (called a Swoose)

Many (but not all) of these hybrids can’t have babies themselves like a mule (a horse/donkey mix), but it does make you wonder. When the world was much closer to the “very good” condition God originally created and all creatures had a huge variety of genes for differences, could there have been one “super” creature for each of these groups?

What’s more interesting is when creatures separated by oceans can still have children together. When they can’t fly, like the camels and llamas, Uniformitarians will tell us they have been evolving apart for millions of years.

As with all origins science, we have to use our imaginations, make guesses, and try to check if our assumptions fit the facts. There were only a handful of eyewitnesses of the Flood, and no records of what the animals on board the Ark actually looked like!

They, and every beast after his kind, and all the cattle after their kind, and every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind, and every fowl after his kind, every bird of every sort.
And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life. Genesis 7:14-15

For more, check out these articles:

Answers in Genesis:

Mammalian Ark Kinds (long, but lots of pictures)

Frog Kinds on the Ark (brand new!)

Creation’s Hidden Potential (a short talk about how Creation Scientists think about creatures changing)

Creation Ministries International:

Thinking biblically about termites and lizards

Ligers and wholphins? What next?

Identification of species within the cattle monobaramin (kind)

Book Review: Don’t Miss The Boat

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Paul Taylor has pulled together a great overview of the history of Noah’s Flood. He covers both the science and the spiritual/moral implications of this seminal event in our history for ordinary people.

Although Mr. Taylor doesn’t bring the language down quite to a child’s level, he does a great job accomplishing his goal of reaching everyday adults. There are a few points he brings up repeatedly, but that’s because the book is designed for you to search for a topic rather than having to read straight through.

It was especially nice to see the last section is laid out to give a study group starter questions to work through. Paul Taylor planned his book with the goal of helping churches lead their entire congregations into a deeper understanding of the Flood.

Don’t Miss the Boat draws out aspects of the Bible’s account of the Flood that will be sure to interest people no matter what they most enjoy. There is science, yes, but also theology, history, and the picture of Jesus’ salvation the ark so clearly gives us.

Having studied this topic for years, very little of Taylor’s points were new to me, but there is something extraordinary about this book that makes it worth having in any well stocked Creation library. Just before the wrap up bits of the book, Taylor plies his hand at some fiction writing.

I won’t go into detail, but will tell you the snapshot accounts included are NOT from Noah’s perspective. They are gut wrenching views of what would inspire God to wipe the slate clean. It isn’t stuff for kids, but neither does Taylor revel in sinful gore. By the time someone is well into their teens, they should be aware of the kinds of sins mentioned.

For me, I found the stories hit home in a way I’d never experienced. They are powerful, and likely to make us wonder why Jesus hasn’t returned to wipe sinful humanity out again already. Although, today there is a far larger remnant of people sold out to Jesus.

Paul Taylor doesn’t load his book with bibliography, but he does mention enough to give you places to go if you want to learn more. There were at least two books I hadn’t heard of that are now on my list to check out ASAP!

If you want to find out more about Paul Taylor’s work, you’ll enjoy checking out his articles on Answers in Genesis and catching up on two and a half seasons of co-hosting the Creation Today Show with Eric Hovind. I think you’ll find he’s a delightful, wise, and understanding British gentleman. I know he’s done a video series on the Six Days of Creation and from what the book says, there should be a video on the Flood to go along with his book soon.

Disclaimer: Thanks to all of you, Master Books gave me a free copy of Don’t Miss the Boat to review! They didn’t tell me what to say about it, though. Want to check out more reviews (generally much more gushy than mine)? Check out the link up page for us at New Leaf Press’ Blog

Kinds, Relatives, the Ark, & You

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We’re used to Evolutionists telling us everything is related. From sponges to lizards, from apes to you is supposed to have come from one or a handful of original lifeforms. They love talking about how animals develop into separate species when something keeps one group from having babies together with another group.

We can see this happening today.

What they want us to think is that, in a couple dozen million years, one group will have turned into some brand new organism no one can yet imagine. At the same time, the fossil record shows us at least some organisms are basically the same no matter how far down you dig. What are we to think?

Part of the problem Darwin had with the popular science of his day was a belief called Fixism.

Family Portrait

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Fixism is the fancy (and easy) name for the belief that the way animals and plants are today is the exact way they’ve been forever. (There’s another version of this for geology claiming the continents have never changed, either.)

This idea goes back a long time and was studied by early modern scientists who got a lot of their ideas from Greek writings. Grownups might enjoy learning more by reading this really long link.

The important thing to know is, those of us who believe God created all creatures are still said to believe in Fixism. But do we?

We obviously don’t believe people have “ape-like ancestors”. We believe all human beings have one set of original parents, Adam and Eve. But we aren’t shocked to see people who look very different from each other.

Today scientists can study the range of differences in our DNA giving our bodies directions to make all the variety we see in each other. At the same time we can see it only takes a tiny change to make these things happen. We are genetically super close to all people, even those from the other side of the world. Just like we were expecting.

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What about animals? It doesn’t take too much study to find all our dogs and housecats developed from an original version. Today the “breeds” look so different it’s hard to imagine how they could change so much. But we know they did!

You would need to ignore a lot of evidence in the world around to believe God created Persian Blue cats and Holstein cows on Day Six. Let’s take a minute to see what God tells us He really did during Creation Week:

And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25

See that word “kind”? In Hebrew the word is “meen“. God used it 10 times in Genesis Chapter One. Noah used the word 7 times talking about the animals he took onto the ark.

Today, creation scientists have decided it’s about time we figured out just what God was talking about. They call this study “baraminology“. The “bara” means “created”, with the word for kind right after. So the word means the study of “created kinds”.

Just after Jacob Howard’s article on the American Badger, the Creation Magazine has a short article on the members of the “badger kind”. Hearing the list of animals they believe came from a single set of parents on the Ark was mind-blowing.

Turns out there is plenty of evidence for many animals to be related to one another back to what we usually call the “family” group. I’ve run out of room to talk about them today, but plan to write more soon!

In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah’s wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark; They, and every beast after his kind, and all the cattle after their kind, and every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind, and every fowl after his kind, every bird of every sort. And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life. And they that went in, went in male and female of all flesh, as God had commanded him:
and the LORD shut him in. Genesis 7:13-16

For more, check out this post by Jacob Howard: A “Kind” Puppy

The Nations That God Has Made

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When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

These are the opening lines of the United States of America’s Declaration of Independence.  Notice that our right to be a separate country has its foundation in being created by God.  If we were just evolved from apelike ancestors, we would have no more right than a horse to set up our own government!

I know that I have a number of people from around the world visit here.  But since today is America’s Birthday, I thought it would be wonderful to point out that God is the one who brings all nations into being and loves us all!

All nations whom you have made shall come and worship before you, O Lord; and shall glorify your name.  Psalm 86:9 

It doesn’t get any clearer than that.  Every nation on earth is not only known to God but also made by Him.  He cares for all of us!

And has made of one blood all nations of men in order to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; Acts 17:26 

This is part of St Paul’s speech to the smart guys of Athens.  This tells us not only that we are all descendents of Adam (and Eve, Noah, his wife and 3 daughters in law), but also that God is involved in the rise and fall of nations.  God is even interested in where our borders are drawn!– Now there’s a thought.

These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread. Genesis 9:19 

I found an excellent but long article on Noah and Genetics over at Creation.com.  You can even find out where your family belongs in the Table of Nations (the list of names in Genesis chapter 9).  I searched this site last year because my family has some American Indian in us and I wanted to know where they fit in.  The answer was there as well as a whole lot of other amazing things (be sure to check out where the Trojans settled after Oddyseus defeated them)!

You might also enjoy getting a copy of the Tower of Babel which covers the basics about each father listed in the Table of Nations.

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When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel. Deuteronomy 32:8

If you want your nation to have plenty of people and prosper, make sure you help the Israelis (and Diaspora) do the same!

All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee. For the kingdom is the LORD’S: and he is the governor among the nations. Ps 22:27,28

And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD’S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.  And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.  And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. Isa 2:2-4 

Praise the LORD, HE’s coming back to be our KING!!!

NO KING BUT KING JESUS

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How Long Did Noah’s Flood Last?

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Have you ever read a mystery story where some strange, little detail gets mentioned? By the end of the book you know it wasn’t just put in to fill up extra pages, somehow each bit mattered to the story.

The Bible is like that. Most of the time we long for more details and extra information about the people and events of long ago, but sometimes there are odd tiny facts thrown in. Sure enough, when you learn more about archaeology, science, and history, every one of them means something.

Some of the coolest of these details are in the early parts of Genesis.

OK, here’s a pre-quiz. The world-wide flood lasted:

  • 6 days and 7 nights (like the ancient Assyrians believed)
  • 40 days
  • 1 year and 10 days

The only way you’re going to know the answer is to pull out your Bible and look for those details. Here’s the first one to find:

Genesis 7:11

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What’s it tell you? On the ______ day of the _______ month all the “fountains of the great deep”  broke up and the windows (or sluice gates) of heaven were opened. The Flood was starting!

Now for the fun part:

Genesis 7:17-24

How many days did it take before the ark started floating around? __________

How many days did the Flood last before going down (verse 24)? _____________

Genesis 8:1-2

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At what point did the rain and ground waters stop? ______________ days from the beginning of the Flood.

Genesis 8:3,4

OK, now we have to learn something a little odd: ancient people always measured months as being 30 days long, so 150 days equaled exactly 5 months. So this means Noah’s 7 months minus 2 months equals 150 days.

Noah knew the Flood had reached its highest point and started to go down because the ark landed on the mountain exactly 5 months after the whole thing started.

Those returning waters are some of the coolest parts of the whole account, be sure to find out why!

Genesis 8:5

How much longer did it take for any land to be visible from Noah’s outlook on the mountain? 17 days plus ______ days equal one month (8th month, first day). 8 months need ____ more months to get to the 10th month= ______ months and _______ days

Genesis 8:6-9

How many more days after seeing dry ground did Noah wait before sending out the raven? ______ days.

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The Dove Returns to Noah, by James Jacques Joseph Tissot

Why was the raven not a good choice to look for dry ground? Ravens will eat anything and are especially fond of meat, even dead bodies. Doves only eat seeds, fruit, and plants.

Genesis 8:10-12

How many days after the dove came back empty did Noah wait to send out the dove? ____ days

What did she bring back with her this time? ____________________ So Noah knew the ground was dry enough for sprouts and that _________ seeds had survived the water.

A week later the dove didn’t come back at all. Why not? There must have been enough ______________ for her to survive without Noah’s help!

Genesis 8:13

What did Noah get for his birthday present? A look at _______ land. But he didn’t do anything but look. Why not? (there’s not a wrong answer to this, but you might look at the end of Genesis 7:16 for a clue) ______________________________________________

Genesis 8:14-19

Alright, now the Flood is finally over, at least enough for life to start getting back to normal! 601 years, 2 months, and 27 days minus 600 years, 2 months, and 17 days equals= ________ year ______ days. That’s a long time to be stuck in a boat, even if it’s an ocean liner.

Noah Descending from Ararat (1889 painting by ...

Noah Descending from Ararat (1889 painting by Ivan Aivazovsky)

Do you think it was a bother for Noah’s family and all the animals to obey God’s command that time?

And God did not spare the ancient world—except for Noah and the seven others in his family. Noah warned the world of God’s righteous judgment. So God protected Noah when he destroyed the world of ungodly people with a vast flood. II Peter 2:5 NLV

 

You can also check out the time chart another young lady did on the Flood HERE: Bible Answer Girl: How Long Was Noah on the Ark

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The Ancients and the Year

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Today, we know the earth comes back to the same position around the sun every 365.2425 days, but, did you know the first post Flood civilizations all used a 360 day year? They also used the cycles of the moon to measure out months (the word “month” means “moon”).  Some people, like the Egyptians, realized quickly things didn’t stay in line without adjustments. Others continued to use the old system for thousands of years.

When you compare the Bible’s use of days and months with years, you will find it uses the 360 day year all the way through. In Revelation, 3 1/2 years is used to measure the same length of time as 1,260 days. To find the length of a single year, you divide those days by 3.5 which equals 360 days.

Why would something so badly off from what we see today be so common?

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If you start from the idea that people are getting smarter and smarter, this is easy to solve: people back then were too dumb to figure out the months and years weren’t matching up.

 

But, since we know the ancients were really smart, we’ve got to look further. Let’s start with the first time we hear about the 360 day year in the Bible:

On the 17th day of the second month, when Noah was 600 years old, the springs under the earth broke through the ground, and water flowed out everywhere. The sky also opened like windows and rain poured down. Genesis 7:11

The water continued to cover the earth for 150 days. Genesis 7:24

After 150 days the water was low enough that the boat touched land again. The boat stopped on one of the mountains of Ararat. This was the 17th day of the seventh month. Genesis 8:3,4

(7 months and 17 days) minus (2 month and 17 days) gives us exactly 5 months. We are told these 5 months equal 150 days. 150 divided by 5 gives us 30 days per month, which matches the 360 day year. It looks like all these early civilizations got their calendar from Grandpa Noah.

Now we’ll think about why this man, smart and godly enough to build the greatest floating zoo ever, didn’t use a 365.2425 day year.

  • Some creationists side with the evolutionists and say he used the 360 day year even though it was never accurate. This doesn’t make them bad, but I see no reason to believe Noah was so careless
  • Others say Noah was probably using what was accurate up to the Flood. The Flood was a massive, world-wide event. It could easily be powerful enough to have messed up our year

So, how could the earth have changed? There are two possibilities:

  • The earth might have slowed down the circle it makes around the sun so it took longer
  • The earth could have started spinning faster so it took more spins to get to the same point
And Spin...

And Spin… (Photo credit: Sangudo)

We’re pretty sure the earth’s circuit around the sun hasn’t slowed down because it would take such a gigantic force nothing would have survived. But, getting the earth to spin faster isn’t nearly as difficult and can be explained by the changes of the Flood year.

Here’s the idea. If you go ice skating and spin around in place, you can change how fast you turn by sticking out your arms or leg (to go slower), or by pulling them tightly together (to spin faster). So, if the earth had a way to pull its weight closer to the middle, it would speed up in the same way.

We know there was a huge amount of underground water before the Flood. It was this escaping water which started the Flood with the rain helping out. Water’s heavy, but rocks are even heavier. As the water spewed out, the rocks began to fill their old spaces pulling earth’s weight closer to the middle.

There could have been other things going on at the same time causing the earth to spin faster, and we haven’t talked about the moon and its months no longer matching, but I’ve run out of space for today. What we do know for sure is there is no reason to look down our noses at our earliest forefathers for being silly enough to not figure out the true length of months and years.

I was reminded of this ancient reality by this article at the Creation Science Hall of Fame: 360 day year: no coincidence

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