Animal Family Reunion: Hybrids

Lambs

We’ve looked at how Biblical Creationists are said to believe in something called “Fixism” or, the idea that God created all creatures just as we see them today. Scientific observation will show anyone that idea can’t be true.

We also know Evolutionists believe every organism is part of one big family going back to a single ancestor (or very small group of single-celled ancestors). This also goes against everything we observe in science. Instead we see each creature having children close, but not identical, to their parents. Most of the time we have no problem saying they are part of the same species.

But sometimes things get really shaken up.

Genetic Relationships Among Human and Swine In...

 

We live in exciting times for Creation Science. With the help of DNA studies and all the scientific advances in the world, it is way easier to discover real family relationships. Even 50 years ago, most of what scientists had to go on was how a creature looked and acted. Today all kinds of organisms are being reclassified because we’ve found their genetics to be different from what we’d figured they had to be. (For an example, check out the confusion over the Giant Panda’s closest genetic neighbors).

BTW, what does this tell us about fossil creatures where we can’t possibly compare their genetics? How can anyone say it’s a fact that some things are related? They have no option but to assume the way the bones and other things look prove their case.

There is also a push right now to get a good idea of the kinds of animals God would have brought to Noah on the ark. This is an important thing to know. Did Noah need to take pairs from each of the 100,000+ species with him? If we thought he did, we would end up throwing out the whole story because there is no way they could all fit!

So, Answers in Genesis (who are saving up to build a full-sized replica of the Ark) and others are really studying these things. Here are some of the things they’ve found:

Swoose” Honking (Photo credit: OakleyOriginals)

 

  • Camels can have babies with Llamas (called a Cama, and are they cute!)
  • A Toothed Whale can have babies with a Dolphin (called a Wholphin)
  • A Swan and a Goose can have a baby (called a Swoose)

Many (but not all) of these hybrids can’t have babies themselves like a mule (a horse/donkey mix), but it does make you wonder. When the world was much closer to the “very good” condition God originally created and all creatures had a huge variety of genes for differences, could there have been one “super” creature for each of these groups?

What’s more interesting is when creatures separated by oceans can still have children together. When they can’t fly, like the camels and llamas, Uniformitarians will tell us they have been evolving apart for millions of years.

As with all origins science, we have to use our imaginations, make guesses, and try to check if our assumptions fit the facts. There were only a handful of eyewitnesses of the Flood, and no records of what the animals on board the Ark actually looked like!

They, and every beast after his kind, and all the cattle after their kind, and every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind, and every fowl after his kind, every bird of every sort.
And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life. Genesis 7:14-15

For more, check out these articles:

Answers in Genesis:

Mammalian Ark Kinds (long, but lots of pictures)

Frog Kinds on the Ark (brand new!)

Creation’s Hidden Potential (a short talk about how Creation Scientists think about creatures changing)

Creation Ministries International:

Thinking biblically about termites and lizards

Ligers and wholphins? What next?

Identification of species within the cattle monobaramin (kind)

AiG: Model Cross Section of the Ark

Species: How Many Bats did Noah Need on the Ark?

The Great Flood! God Drowns Everyone

This picture is quite mythical

One of the arguments you will run into “proving” the global Flood never happened is this: it is impossible to fit all the land animal species onto the ark (so therefore the whole story is a myth).  That statement (minus the parenthetical conclusion) is true!  But does the Bible require Noah to fit all the known (and unknown) species onto the ark?  Hardly!

Here’s what I saw while studying for last week’s bat post:

  • Bats are categorized by scientists into 1,000 species
  • These 1,000 species make up 25% of the known mammal species on earth (lots of sites mention these facts. You can check it out on Going Bats.org, or one of many .edu PDFs: Ohio State’s is really cool!)
  • These 1,000 species are divided into only 18 families: 17 “micro” bats and 1 family for all the fruit bats + flying foxes

Today I ran into something even more interesting.  The only group of mammals more common than bats is the rodent group:

  • Rodents are categorized into 1,814 species, of which 1,383 species are mice and rats (if 1,000 species is 25% of all mammals, that leaves only 1,186 other species for all the rest of the mammal group)
  • These rodents are grouped into just 29 total families

Does that tell you something about how much room was actually needed on the Ark?  We know that even today new varieties of living things continue to form when a small population of animals are kept away from the rest of their kind (for example, check out the lizards that got moved from one island to another).

BTW if “Evolution” always meant what Science Daily says it means for those lizards, I’m an evolutionist. In fact, this is called “microevolution” and we Creationists have no problem with it at all.  I believe that my own family (and yours) as well as every other living thing has changed from the prototypes God first created.  However, we’re not better than the original version or turning into some other kind of creature, and neither is anything else!

English: Argonauta species Images taken by Use...

Argonauta species

From all of our observations, animals and plants that get separated from the main group start to look different and have genetic variations from the others.  Eventually, this sub-group may even no longer be able to have new little ones with the rest of the group.  But, does this take millions of years and produce totally new creatures with new functions?

Naturalistic Evolution has to answer that question with a “yes” because without new functions and creatures, their worldview is sunk.  But, no matter how hard we try, such radical changes have never been observed, they must be presumed and just believed in despite the facts.

3 ornithoptera specimens

3 ornithoptera specimens

Creationists look at the same set of facts and see that it was not necessary for Noah to squeeze many thousands of bats and rodents, and stuff onto the Ark.  The “species” we divide up today could have quickly developed from just a few well chosen (by God) DNA-rich ancestors that survived the Flood.

Just how to classify living and past animals and plants is one of the big areas of Creation studies now.  I’ve written a little on what we know about mutations (the only way to get things to change that Evolutionists will admit to) vs. original genetic variety.

Here are some pages to check out to see what the scientists are saying about all this:

Answers in Genesis: Feedback: Species and Kinds and the Ark by Paul Taylor (my hero! very readable article) and, for those of you who never get enough info, the brand new scientific article: Mammalian Ark Kinds

Institute for Creation Research (none are very long):

Creation Ministries International:

I will make a special agreement with you. You, your wife, your sons, and their wives will all go into the boat. Also, you will take two of every living thing on the earth with you into the boat. Take a male and female of every kind of animal so that they might survive with you. Two of every kind of bird, animal, and creeping thing will come to you so that you might keep them alive. Also bring every kind of food into the boat, for you and for the animals.”  Noah did everything God commanded him. Genesis 6:18-22 Easy-to-read Version